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[00:00:18] Speaker B: This is another money show. Get set for another hour of the latest financial information and economic news affecting your bottom line. J.R. and Anthony are committed to helping more Americans like you optimize their inc. Reduce their tax risk and reach financial freedom. So let's start the show. Here are your hosts, Anthony Correo and JR Rochford.
[00:00:42] Speaker C: Here we are, your hosts, Anthony Correo and Junior Rochford taking a break from our day to day as financial advisors with Rochford and Associates, a fully independent fourth generation family office right here in the greater Phoenix area to bring information you may not find on those other financial shows. We are aware the last thing you need is another money show, but we appreciate you being here. And J.R. what's, what's on the docket today?
[00:01:07] Speaker D: Well, we have very special day, but before we tell you why, let me do a little quick shout out. We want to shout out to Kelly in Tucson at Ford Strategies. We just had one of the best weeks of our lives and we just want to say thank you. Hopefully you're listening to this one. But yeah, we were with a group of about 30 something friends of ours in Nassau, Bahamas. We're at the SLS Bahama Boy. Talk about a beautiful place, a beautiful week. Our phones all went off in one day because of a possible hurricane alert. So that was exciting. But yeah, no, I mean the food, everything, it's a little pricey. I mean, I will warn you, make sure you bring your gold and silver coins. They have a VAT tax. I know we've talked about that before. The United States is always talking about doing a VAT tax. That's the value added tax. So that was 10%. Then everywhere you eat they do an automatic 15% gratuity and that's for the entire restaurant. They point that out right away because then you have to feel free to tip your own server. So by the time you're done with the VAT tax, the automatic tip and then your tip, you're looking at a pretty chunky bill and the food is pricey. But let me tell you something, save those coins and get over there, man. It's beautiful. After today's show, you may want to wait for a while to get there. But, but yeah, keep in mind the bombs. Thank you so much, Kelly Sue Connor. I mean that, that whole thing was great and we, we saw some friends we only seen once a year. So how fun. Anyway, on today's show because it is going to be a packed one. You know, we've had Seth Liebson on, we had Joe Jaquin on recently. This, this is wonderful because these are my heroes, these are my idols we're getting on the show. Well, this is one that I've been listening to this guy probably close to 10 years. My son actually was in martial arts with this man's son. That's how I first met him and been listening to him ever since. This, this is a guy that if you know who he is, this is huge. If you don't know who he is, I'm pretty sure after the show you're going to reach out and find him. One of his recent claims to fame, he was kicked off YouTube. So you know he's on the right track. Let me give you a quick rundown on this man from his own website. So Dave Hodges has been publishing the Common Sense show since 2012. The Common Sense show features a wide variety of important topics that range from the loss of constitutional liberties to the subsequent implementation of a police state. Where were they already, Dave? Under world governance. To exploring the limits of human potential. The primary purpose of the Common Sense show is to provide Americans with the tools necessary to reclaim both our individual and national sovereignty. Tell us, Dave, a little bit about yourself and let's jump into, you know, getting people prepared.
[00:04:01] Speaker E: Well, I used to be just a normal person and I mean that sincerely.
I started out my professional career simply being a high school teacher.
Psychology, sociology, AP American History. I was, I've been a basketball, football, baseball coach, focused mostly on basketball. I graduated to the college ranks. I mean, I taught at GCU for 14 years at Real Salado before that. I've written courses, been a college basketball. I was college basketball coach for 10 years. So I was normal. And it wasn't until I moved out here to rural northern Maricopa county did I really understand how bad and corrupt things could be. We bought what we thought was going to be our retirement home and everything was wonderful. And then all of a sudden all our neighbors started complaining they couldn't get permits to do anything. Fortunately, we had already gotten most of our add ons in at the time and we weren't affected immediately. And then I found out they were putting moratoriums on anything we could do. We couldn't build a fence, couldn't build a pool, couldn't put a patio cover on, couldn't do anything, couldn't even lay cement. And they were basically setting the stage without buying us out and paying us for eminent domain over time to force us out. And what I learned was, well, they said it's because you're too close to the air base. Well, we're 35 air miles in the air base and they fly over 300,000 people to get to us. So I don't think that was it. And there were four areas that were encumbered by these restrictions. Gila Bend, East Yuma and the farmers and south Tucson. A lot of university professors were affected by this. And I was looking at a map one night, Maricopa county government map as actually the Maricopa association of governments. And they showed the Canamex highway system which was part of the Central American free Trade Agreement. We want to be new world order people sponsored by John McCain and Ted Kennedy. And they were putting some right through our area. We were going to be a multimodal hub for trucking, for rail and for highway. And we sit on the state's largest water underground supply at the Hasayampa. And they wanted that to support their infrastructure. So they were trying to piecemeal us off. I entered into an eight year battle and I made the mistake. Don't ever do this, people. I was at a public meeting with our community of about 300 people, 300 families, about 400 people at the meeting. And someone asked me a question and I said, well, this is a violation of the fifth amendment. And I explained a little bit of my understanding back to my teaching in American government days. And all of a sudden I'm the spokesperson and it changed my life forever. We I started appearing on talk shows around the country.
I've been shot at because of this. I won't go into the details of that, but it's been an interesting journey. And after eight years, the Goldwater Institute that I got hooked up with because of my friend Ernie Hancock at Freedoms Phoenix, we were able to stop the takeover of our properties. But by then I had been offered a radio show in Wickenburg. That station no longer exists. The late Pete Peterson said, dave, you got to have your own show. I said, that's not who I am because what do you mean you do this all the time. And so I started doing a weekly show and it's kind of grown from there. But I used to be normal. I didn't believe in conspiracy stuff like this. I mean, I thought Kennedy thing was interesting. And I used to Speak about it like Lions Clubs and Kiwanis and so forth, and to high school classes around the county. But other than that, I didn't get into any of this. But it wasn't until I did this fight for eight years that I realized we're on the road to losing our country. And we're there right now. This is decision time.
[00:07:56] Speaker D: Well, and when you say that, I mean you're on the right show, because the people that listen to us, they are going to agree with you 100%. Our motto is, we want people prepared, not scared. We want people proactive, not reactive. I've been in my job for about 26 years. I manage money into the future without a crystal ball. About 20 of those years, I've been getting more and more nervous. Just every year a little bit more nervous. Yeah, I was telling people in the late 90s, do a Roth IRA. I was. I was doing the right things to be proactive. Well, I'll tell you what. You know, one of the things that I've been called is the boy that cried wolf. When we had Seth Liebson on the show, it was funny because that was brought up, the boy that cried wolf. And he mentioned the fact that at the end of that story, there really is a wolf. This seems like everything I've worried about for 20 years is now here. I literally worry from today through the next. I'm ultimately imminently worried between now and the third week of January when there's a new president installed. But, I mean, I'm just. This is. Yeah, this is our time to shine, Dave. You as a big fish and us as a little fish. This is our time.
[00:09:04] Speaker E: So I think we're in the same pool, but. And certainly everyone that's watching and listening, you're in the same pool, too.
And I can say this as someone who prides himself on having a working, good, working knowledge of history. There has never been a time such as this in America. And I mean, the Great Depression, I mean, World War II, certainly those threatened our existence. But we're at a time when we're betrayed from within globalist forces. A lot of them, Americans, have got their minions into power. And we're doing exactly what Joseph McCarthy said back in the early 50s when he said, we're the victim of a Communist takeover. It's a Communist conspiracy. And people laughed at him when he went after Hollywood in his hearings. And now we look at it, and we look at Disney and all the other moguls, he was right. It problem for him, though, is he was about 70 years ahead of his time. But we are going through this now. We are headed towards. This is what I call the group, the group that's taken us over, and it's been a coup d'etat and they haven't centralized power yet, but they are satanic Bolshevik communists. Satanic. I'll define it this way, being a Christian. When you give puberty blockers to kids before the age of decision and don't even involve their parents, when you want to cut their genitals off at puberty and cause lifelong psychological and physical scars that are not reversible, you are satanic. Bolshevik Communism speaks for itself. Wage and price controls talked about by Kamala Harris. That's Bolshevik communism and all the other things she talks about. I'll give Congress 100 days to get the guns. And on the 101st day, I'm going to do an executive order. Well, see, the Second Amendment exists to protect us from people like her. And she's announcing she's coming after the framework of the Constitution and every element within it. We are headed for a satanic Bolshevik communist, total takeover. Right now, we're in the consolidation phase. They are going to do their darndest to install her as a puppet dictator. And she'll just simply follow directions. Sign here, Kamala, and she'll sign there and cackle, and that's all she'll do. But the net effect is this. You have to look at what organizations like the UN and the World Health Organization and the World Economic Forum. What are they saying? They want basic total communism, subjugation, depopulation, the removal of all personal liberties, putting your lifestyle back with your climate change scam back to about 1790. And that's what's on the table right now. I mean this. We're fighting not just for America, but we're fighting for our standard of living. And some of us are fighting for our very lives. Because. Let me share one more thing with you. We are going into the next phase, which involves Kamala. It's called the consolidation phase of communism. And if they're able to establish total power through the installation of this puppet dictator. Okay, what does history show us? History shows us that communism equals body bags and people. I'm not exaggerating. Look at a history book. And this is exactly what we're on the precipice of entering into.
[00:12:18] Speaker D: All right, so I have to interject something, something I run into all the time. I'm sure you run into it less because of your lawn life and the people that follow you. Okay, so A lot of times, what the resistance I get. We've had a world war, we've had a great depression, we've had bubonic plague, we've had civil war, all this stuff. My take is you are correct. There's always been something to worry about. Not this many at one time. We didn't have all those things at once. At all the problems we've had, I look at it like dominoes. Russia is back on the table. When I was a young man, Russia was going to attack us. The people that had the means were putting a pod in their backyard in case we got nuked. Russia's back in the table. North Korea is constantly trying to remain relevant. Now they're putting troops in a Russia hand over fist from what I hear. Every single thing. We have 35 trillion in debt. We have a fiat currency on its way out. The big BRICS meeting ends this afternoon. I've read several reports this morning that are conflicting each other on China and India, on whether they're playing nice or not. Every single, you know, the banks are broke. We've got 1.2% coverage on your covered accounts for the FDIC. Every single thing is wrong. How do I tell people it's not crazy right now to be extremely afraid, be extremely awake. Get yourself snapped out of the normalcy bias that you're trapped in. How do I scream when it's just me, not you?
[00:13:46] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm immune and all the reason I'm immune is not because of my experience or my intelligence, while a little bit my experience because on my dad's side of the family, I'm the descendant of Germans that came here and saw the writing on the wall very early. And they got out and I grew up hearing from grandmother, great grandmother, great aunt, aunt. My dad was very small when he came here. But the reality is this is I was raised to recognize this. And I talked to immigrants that come here who are now successful businessmen. They came here the right way. They went through the legal process and they say I escaped what's happening here now. And so I come by this naturally in my upbringing that I'm sensitive to seeing this, what we're going through. And this is the historical part of me is in part a Maoist cultural revolution. And there's two sides to what's going on. One is let's destroy the culture and then we'll actually destroy the government structure. But first they're working on the culture and I'll give the example. They're getting us to argue about gender. They're pitting one race against the other. And those, those things have worked. I think that's slowing down and they're effectiveness, but what they're really doing effectively is they're perverting everything about the Judaic Christian faith. That was the underlying principles that founded this constitution in our government. And they're really attacking those. I'll give you an example. Hey, I don't care if someone's gay. It's your right. You got to answer for yourself at the end of days. I don't care. Why do we have to have a parade that embellishes someone's sexual practices? Just close the door and do your thing the same as the rest of us. Close the door and do our things. I don't care which. A parade? Why? Why do you have to have a parade? And that's just one example. And then we're taking kids and brainwashing them in school. That Marxism is good capitalism and greediness is bad. And if you're white you're evil and if you're black you're a victim and the two of you can never get along. I mean, you look at this crap going on. This is what Mao Zedong did. And this is why I call it a Maoist cultural revolution. And then on the other side they're attacking the Constitution. How many times are we hearing Biden now? Tim Walts, Kamala Harris, your First Amendment is not absolute. In other words, we'll decide what you can say and can't say. And they've carried that out with their fascist interaction with tech, big tech and the social media saying what you can and cannot say before we punish you. And then they're getting into, we're going to take your guns, okay? We're going to let illegals like in New York occupy your homes under squatters. That's third amendment stuff. Okay, we'll take J6 people and put them in prison for three years without a trial, deny them their cancer medication, put them in solitary confinement, feed them crappy food, and they're still waiting to see a lawyer in some cases. I mean, this is the overhaul of the constitution that's underway. So we have a two sided revolution, cultural and constitutional.
[00:16:49] Speaker D: Wow. So our friend and client, Roger, if you're listening, you think I'm like drinking from a fire hose. Welcome to Dave's world. No, Anthony, I mean, don't I sound like Dave Jr? I mean all of these things, you know, I talk about people flying the gay pride flag. I've said the same exact thing. You have Dave, do whatever you want. Just stop telling me about it. I don't, I don't judge other people for that.
[00:17:13] Speaker C: Well, they were repressed for so long. They're just finally happy that they can get out and do this.
[00:17:19] Speaker E: Yeah, well, you know, I have a confession to make, guys. You're going to chuckle when I tell you this. One of the things my wife. Maybe this is a sign of senility, but one of the things my wife and I like to do late at night for we retire is we'll watch.
[00:17:34] Speaker D: This is a family show, right, Dave?
[00:17:36] Speaker E: Well, watch Leave it to Beaver reruns. And you know, Ward and June Cleaver, the parents, you never see them in the bedroom together. Does that tell you how far things have gone?
[00:17:47] Speaker C: It wasn't bad. I Love Lucy was the first time to show him in the same bed.
[00:17:51] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah. And kissing in the bedroom, the first time was the Brady Bunch.
Yeah. I mean, this is how far we've come. And you know what? Honestly, I got to tell you, keep the kids away from it. I don't care what they do there. It's my right just not to watch the show. I don't believe in hibiting their first amendment, but what I'm saying is we've seen a moral degradation in our society and it's intentional. The churches are attacked and they're compromised by 501c3. Let's see, as a pastor, will I lose my tax exemption if I tell you abortion is baby killing? And so we have a watered down message now. We have people running churches, various denominations that embrace lifestyles that are anti biblical. And then people are supposed to trust them that they're bringing them the word of God. I mean, this is also part of the malice cultural revolution. And this is intentional. Guys, this is not an accident. A lot of this is based on teachings like Rules for Radicals. And the author of Rules for Radicals actually signed and authored Hillary Clinton's master's degree thesis. So you look at these things and say, okay, this is why we are where we are. And everything I've told you is verifiable. I haven't even got into the stuff that I think is true, but I'm not quite sure.
[00:19:10] Speaker D: Well, and part of what my job is today is to pull some of that out of you. I mean, I, I'm going to bring up the DOD directive 5240 dash zero one. I mean, I, I, I really. And, and my thing is we, we only have you for one hour, so I need you to do to our Listening audience what you did to me a couple nights ago, I need to hear what's extremely imminent. You were interviewed by Mike Adams, the health ranger. And I did send it. I forwarded it to people. I had some people that said they wouldn't listen to it. I had one person say, I don't have 49 minutes. I was like, okay, just do this. Give me 19. Listen to the first 19. Tell me you're going to put this down.
And obviously I'm jumping right to the very most important thing in Maricopa county right now, today.
Let me dig in.
[00:19:58] Speaker E: Give a quick backdrop to this. I've spoken for Take our borders Back organization.
And the last one I attended was in late June at San Yro on the border near San Diego. And I rubbed elbows with Gil Maza and other Border Patrol agents. I know J.J. carell. He's been on my show some. And these guys are all saying the same thing. So those of you that want to doubt what I told Mike Adams, and I'm not the only one saying a Paul Preston's got it. Doug Thornton, you know, former dhf, these people all are hearing the same thing. But here's what these Border Patrol people told me. Dave, we have somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000 terrorists. We don't know the exact number because of the gotaway factor. And sometimes it's catch and release without really checking who they are. But when we check on times, there's a problem. But yet we have to release them anyway, pending an investigation. But they never find them. So what I'm telling you is I'm going to go back to 2008 and I wrote an article said that we're going to have a Tet offensive in this country because of all the bad people we might be letting in, that we don't know how bad they are. That was in 2008 and Bush was still the president. So now let's cycle forward 16 years later and we have anywhere depending whose numbers you want to read, 10 million, 21 million illegals coming in. We've already busted terrorist plots to disrupt election day.
And by the this is mainstream media, folks. This isn't conjecture. So when I say this to you, it's not surprising that I'm getting these warnings in Arizona and here specifically is what I'm getting. And the reason I did Mike Adams show, I was already talking about this with some people and someone sent me Mike's tweet and it was very close to what I was being told. And so I answered Mike's tweet back and he said, come on the show, we got to do something together. So that's how that show took place. But what we're getting is this, is that we, we already have massive amounts of terrorists in this, in this country, okay? Our politicians in Arizona, in case you haven't heard me say this, in other venues, about a third of the state legislature is under control. The Sinaloa through money laundering, through phony real estate deals. We have fake judges that really aren't lawyers. And this is all the work of people like John Thaler, who's 30 year RICO investigator, who in his book has 5,000 references and 20,000 affidavits. This is not even controversial. So we already have a totally corrupted state. Our Secretary of State Adrian Fontes defended the murders of Brian Terry, 8, a Border Patrol agent in the Fast and Furious situation. I mean, that may not be illegal for Adrian Fontes to do that, but what an optic for your Secretary of State that he could even get elected after that kind of passed. So here's what we're getting. Terrorists, and we don't know the timing and I'll discuss what I think is possible. But we know from intel that they're armed with RPGs, you know, the Stinger missiles, automatic weapons, IEDs. And I brought this up with Doug Thorne, X DHS supervisor, yesterday's broadcast partner. I told Doug what I was getting on the IED front. He goes, dave, he says, we haven't talked about this before, but we've caught IEDs all across the country. This is nothing new. And I said, really? And he goes, some have gone off, but he said the public has never told the truth. Well, that's interesting. Okay, automatic weapons drones, suicide drones that are attempted to destroy infrastructure including the water supply. And if you want to basically neutralize Arizona entirely, take out the water supply that's our most critical resource, as well as the electric grid that's going to be targeted from this. Now, like I said, Sheriff Mack warned me not the specifics of the weapons. He warned me this was coming, he thought in October.
But he also said, I'm not going to put a date on this day because I was told a date, but I'm not going to put it on there. But he goes, I think it's coming and it's in law enforcement. I know Elio, and I'm not going to be specific because I'm not going to compromise him. I talked to him two days ago and he has sent his family to live with his parents in another State, that's how serious he's taking it. And other law enforcement, they're either I can't comment or yeah, there's something to this. But they're, they've been told to be tight lipped. The briefings have already taken place.
And this is in Arizona is not the only ground zero. Mike and I thought that a couple of days ago. But Doug Thornton, remember dhs, got DHS contacts. He said right now they're actively preparing for attack by planes 911 style. And I ran that story on my Rumble Channel on Thursday. So I mean this is, this is exactly what I predicted in 2008. It's coming into play now. Purpose, this is I think pretty clear.
It's to disrupt the transition of power. Now, Kamala Harris, I have two sources and I can't identify them and then one I can't identify. I have two very good sources who give me election numbers and they have an algorithm that predicts how an election is going to turn out. And the correlation of accuracy for them is 0.9. And that's a huge, huge correlation coefficient. So here's what they say. These two sources that Kamala Harris has depending on the week, between 8 to 12% support approval rating. Okay, Martin Armstrong, now that I can mention him, he's been out publicly, he's saying she has a 10% approval rating.
And so when I go back to this terrorist, what would the purpose of all this be? Well, one, you might be able to stop the election. And there is a scenario to follow there. And I'll make it really brief.
If you can stop the election with ground zero terrorist attacks like here D.C. and so forth, you could get a declaration of martial law. Then you could bring in something called the Kigali Principles. And what's interesting about that is Obama and John Kerry signed us illegally into this treaty in the lame duck period in 2016 before Trump took over. And it basically says this, if there's a problem with a member nation, the other nations can come to their aid. Whether it's a pandemic, a natural disaster, civil insurrection, doesn't matter that troops can show up. And I maintain that the 10,000 Chinese, not my figure, Border Patrol figure, the 10,000 Chinese crossing our border every month are part of a UN occupation force to be rolled out. That's scenario number one to prevent the election. The other way it could be used, and this is what some, most of my colleagues think is they think that this terrorist attacks are going to happen after an unsuccessful election for the left and they'll prevent the transition of power in the same manner.
[00:27:04] Speaker D: Let's do this, Dave. Let's, let's take a quick break. Okay, I want you to continue right there because this is the stuff we need to know today. So if you have any questions for us, reach out to us, 623-523-0444 or email us at teamothermoneyshow.com when we come back. We're going to keep going with Dave and we'll make sure we give you his contact information also. We'll be right back. Thanks for being with us.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: This is another money show, except this one's different. This one's actually fun.
[00:27:35] Speaker E: You should have seen by the look.
[00:27:38] Speaker D: In my eyes, baby, there was something missing.
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[00:28:00] Speaker B: This is another money show, except this one's different. This one will actually keep you awake.
[00:28:06] Speaker D: Welcome back to another Money Show. Thank you so much for being with us. As you know, today is a huge day for us. We have Dave Hodges. He's here to free one enslaved mind at a time. And I'll tell you what I mean, I've been able to share his information for about 10 years now. So I am super excited. If you need to find out who Dave is later, you only caught part of this, reach out to us at teamnothermoneyshow.com or give us a call at 623-523-0444. If today's show was like drinking from a fire hose, we're going to re air this show tomorrow. At what time? On 1:00 to kind of remember when our show is on. So we're on Saturday at noon and Sunday at 1. As you know, this show, you can find us wherever you find your favorite podcast on any platform. We have a YouTube channel. We're still trying to keep ourselves from being kicked off at this point.
[00:28:59] Speaker E: Oh, you don't want to put me on YouTube. I'm public enemy number one.
[00:29:03] Speaker D: You are? I mean, they booted you quickly. You. I mean, I'm surprised I wasn't in the middle of one of your videos when it just went black. It was like, you want to know.
[00:29:11] Speaker E: Why I was booted? We think we've. Listen, I didn't have any strikes, no demonetizations. And it was on the anniversary of the JFK assassination, 60th anniversary. In fact, I was just interviewing Jim Dugenio, the expert on JFK today, and we talked about this. I said, why aren't they releasing the Kennedy files as per the law that the CIA are holding? And I said, here's why they're not and here's why they should. And the next morning, bye bye, Dave. With no strikes.
[00:29:41] Speaker D: No. And the only way we hear about your name, you were a ghost on there. I still follow Starkey Farms. I follow that video.
[00:29:48] Speaker E: She's a friend of mine. Yep, yep.
[00:29:50] Speaker D: So she has let us know you're alive and well. But anybody that followed you on YouTube, man, you, you went away quickly. So. And how do people find you if they want to reach out to you? How do they get you?
[00:30:00] Speaker E: Well, what I really recommend, if you want to follow what we do fairly much in totality, except for our TV show and that subscription is to go to the commonsenseshow.com in the upper right hand corner. We got a newsletter and all you got to do is put your email in and we mail it out. It's a summary of what we do that day. And it goes out at 5 Pacific, 8 Eastern. And we got about 50,000 subscribers. And I think that's the easiest way to do it. And I promise you, we don't sell your information. I don't even need your name. Just put your email in, you'll automatically be signed up.
[00:30:33] Speaker D: I can attest to that. I've been, I've been on that subscription for years and nobody's reached out to me yet. So let's move on with what you were saying. So our imminent situation, what people need to be aware of right now. And by the way, as we record today's the 24th of October.
[00:30:50] Speaker E: Yeah. You know, I'm here, you know, my wife and son and my sister in law, they're at the Trump rally right now as we speak.
In fact, they're probably about an hour and 20 minutes away from hearing Trump. And the preliminary guys are speaking, you know, people like Carrie Lake. And she's not preliminary, she's a, she's the real deal. But anyway, they're speaking. But my fear is terrorists are going to attack large groups. And my wife and I talked about, well, should you go? I couldn't go because of my responsibilities here, both to your show and things I already had scheduled.
I told my wife, I said, I'm going to leave it to you. If you stay home, I'll thank God and if you go, I'll pray for you. But I don't think we can stop living our lives. But you got to think like a terrorist. What would a terrorist do? They want maximum casualties to get the maximum effect. And if your job is to really force martial law and lock down America for whatever purpose, large groups like that would be a target and it could be a target for a plane attack. You know, Doug Thornton said this to me three and a half years ago the that my partner was dhs. He said in DHS we discussed assassinations. And he said we probably won't likely see a JFK style assassination again because of all the cell phones and the cameras and everything. Be harder to get away with it than it was in 1963. He said that what they talked about was a mass casualty event where maybe you fly a plane into event, blow up bombs and kill lots of people and it hides the real intent which, which was to kill the target. And if this were to happen, God forbid in Tempe today where Trump is speaking, you know, you might have 10,000 people dead and Donald Trump's a casualty and it's oh gee, look what happened. How unfortunate he was there. And that's what DHS is the model they've operated on. Now what happened at Butler seemingly violated that, but it really didn't. Doug Hagman, who's been a good friend of mine for a very long time, is a private investigator and a homicide investigator. On top of it, what Doug has found, and he's absolutely right, we've done shows on this, there were two car bombs that were to be detonated of high velocity explosives and it would have killed thousands and possibly Trump. But for some reason they didn't go off and they had to go to plan B, which was a JFK style assassination. And it wasn't crooks, people. The guy who couldn't even make his JV rifle team in high school. So it wasn't crooks. He was a patsy. He was a Lee Harvey Oswald of that event. So that's what happened there with a vet number two. I'm not sure there was a vet number three was Long Island. And they said, well, we found a car bomb in a car, but it was hours before Trump. But it was right next to the event. Give me a break. Okay, that was how the excuse they used. So they didn't call it an assassination attempt. I believe it was. And it was pattern after Butler. So what we're looking at here is people, what do you need to know? If you stay home and don't go to a football game, you know maybe with 50,000 people. I don't blame you.
I don't think you're being paranoid. But if you take the attitude like we are in our family, you still got to live your life. Just be leery. If you go into a movie theater, know where the exits are, maybe you want to sit by them. I don't think that's paranoid. I think that's reasonable precaution.
I think that you need to be on guard, but I think you still need to live your life. And this is how I approach it. But I think these attacks are imminent. They could happen at any time. Are they going there? Are they going to happen? I think there's no question it's going to happen.
[00:34:32] Speaker D: When you bring up football game, I mean, you know our Cardinals stadium holds what, 65,000 people. You've got the Chicago Bears coming in, which is their most well attended game. Usually the tailgating will be huge. That that's on the Sunday, November 3rd. You've got the Battleground Talkers tour coming in this Sunday night. You're going to have Larry Elders, Michael Gallagher, Seth Liebson, Carrie Leg, Abe Hamadeh. There's a huge lineup and we'll be there. By the way, our office is going to be represented there. And it's like I am really, really wondering, is my safety worth going there. I'm waffling back and forth because I'm due to be at the Cardinals game, I'm due to be at the Talkers Tour. Do I go? I mean, how worried should I be? I love what you're saying. Live your life. Don't let this, you know, change your life. But holy cow. I mean, it just, it seems like something is really. It's the calm before the storm. If you ask me. Things are just painfully quiet for such a divisive time in our life.
[00:35:31] Speaker E: Yeah, let's just do the math. Let's, let's, let's take the administration's numbers. 10 million in since Biden came into power. Okay, just the 10 million. It would be naive to believe that we don't have a lot of terrorists here.
And when we say 100,000 to 300 or 200,000 is what border patrol people tell me, I think that's an entirely rational guess based on the percentages. But even if it were just 10,000, that would be enough. If it were just a thousand, I mean. John Moore, you talk show host on rbn, Forward, Green Berets back ops, he said a well trained Spetsnaz group of eight could take down a grid the Size of the city of Phoenix. Okay? So if you have a hundred of these people here, that's a problem. And they're here for a reason. And this is what you can't seem to get people to realize. We are going to be battling on our soil. I mean, my worst scenario in my mind is this. You and I aren't going to decide this battle. It's not going to be you and me getting in the driveway with our shotguns, okay? That's not what's going to decide this. It's going to be what the military and the National Guard do when they start to see the abuse unroll. Whether it's an occupation force, like with the Chinese and on behalf of the UN or whether it's Kamala Harris's dominions.
Which way will the military go? Will they go white hat and defend the people? What kind of split will you have in the Marines and the army and the Navy will be 50, 50, 80, 20. What would that combat look like? What role will other nations play that want to see America fall to give us the New World Order? That's my nightmare scenario. But I would be foolish to think that foreign troops aren't going to be here because if that's not the case, and people, you can look this up. K I G A L I Kigali principles.
It was illegal. It's a treaty. It didn't go through the Senate, but we're in it. And now it's 28 nations, not 15 as it was when, when Obama signed us up. It would be naive to believe that the this current administration would not bring foreign troops in to support them.
And if you doubt me, go look it up, people. K I G A L I and this is why I think this was Obama's parting gift to who he thought was going to be president in Hillary Clinton. And I think we have already would have been there if Clinton had been president. If you look at executive order 13603, okay, it's the takeover of everything. And it's like, I think it's section 601. It says we will draft people. This is civilian labor Department, not the military draft. We will draft people of outstanding abilities to work. And listen to my quote. This is right out of the executive order without compensation. That's slave labor. That is slave labor. And there's talk about removing people to camps, taking over all the food supply. And you can look this up to executive.
[00:38:42] Speaker D: We talked about that, Dave. We talked about months ago. And a lot of people, I mean, I'm always asking People to look things up.
[00:38:48] Speaker E: Yeah, exactly.
[00:38:49] Speaker D: But they don't. I mean, everybody's like, you know, you're crazy. Tinfoil out.
It's. So everything you've said so far is stuff we have addressed on the show. Your, your packaging, what we've been saying over two and a half years.
[00:39:02] Speaker E: Well, people don't want to believe in FEMA camps either. And all I would say is, you know, there's all kinds of legislation, starting with Rex84 back way back when and then bringing it up the current time, FM 3.39.04, it's Army Field Manual, and it goes into great detail about how a FEMA camp will be organized. And by the way, in one of the sections it says we will train foreign operatives to take over the camps. Why? Because I think foreigners will have no compunction to kill Americans where Americans might. And I think this is why they're doing that. And people. I'll say that again, FM 3.39.04. And there's one other. Since we're at it, I'll give you another one. ESF 8 through 14, emergency service function. This is Human Health Services along with the United nations, and it's how we get people to quarantine camps in case of a pandemic. And it's detailed as well, too. And the criteria for removal of you from your home is so weak, you could have bronchitis, you could have a cold, you could have asthma, you might not have anything that's a pathogen and communicable, but they can snatch you out of your home and they can take you and hold you indefinitely and you don't have the right to appeal it in court. And that's ESF 8 through 14. And if you go to my website, the commonsenseshow.com I have the executive order I mentioned. I also have this latest situation, ESF 8 through 14, I've mentioned, I've done shows on it. And people, you're right, people, their eyes glaze over. And the reason why is its cognitive dissonance. People can see danger one step ahead, but when you jump to another level, oh, they would never do that. The government's my third parent. They would never come after me. I haven't done anything wrong. And that's, that's why we have so many people. They're going to get caught off guard.
[00:41:01] Speaker C: Well, we had internment camps in this country, so this wouldn't be the, I mean, obviously a different situation, but to some extent it's very similar.
[00:41:10] Speaker E: You know, Anthony, when I was talking about FEMA camps a lot. Ten years ago, some of my biggest listening audience ethnically were Japanese Americans because they have that in their tradition, their family history. You know, my great grandmother, she was incarcerated. She was a loyal American, owned a business. They stole her business and put her in prison. I mean, this is what I heard from these people that were following me.
[00:41:36] Speaker D: Well, and when you talk about, you know, what's the caveat to bring it on? I mean, you know, we've addressed mpox, you know, eee west. Now measles bubonic plague disease X, Covid, human parvovirus, you know, now Chinese immigrants spending, spreading tuberculosis in Louisiana. You know, people could get sick from a bad quarter ponda with cheese. I mean, there's so many things that could come in and people are like, oh, no, it's just Covid again. No, it's. It's not. Well, if that leads to martial law, that. That's frightening, Junior.
[00:42:05] Speaker E: You know what I think it's going to be if we're going to invoke a pandemic, and I think a pandemic would be post election, post inauguration, new regimes in effect. I think that would be the timing. But what I believe we're going to see is it's going to be weaponized Ebola. And let me give you a few reasons why. I've covered this for years now. The cdc, they're like the Federal Reserve. They operate with government mandate, but they're a private corporation. Center for disease control owns the patent for Ebola. And I have that patent published@the commonsensehow.com and I've referenced it more times than I can count. So here's what the deal is. Any treatment of Ebola, they own a royalty. Anybody who has Ebola and takes medication, they have a royalty. There's even an argument that says if you have Ebola, technically, they might own you. I think that's kind of a reach, but I mean, this is really serious. So they'll make money on our demise. I've also shown how Q labs, and they're no longer doing this publicly, but at one time they published in 2008, they removed it in 2010 that they had a vaccine for Ebola. So in other words, there's a survivability factor for the elite that would access this. Also, Ebola is not spread totally in the ways we've been taught. A lot of Canadian researchers and researchers in Europe, before they got shut down, were showing that Ebola can be aerosolized. You don't have to have an Exchange of bodily fluids. It can even stay on like a tabletop. And if you have the misfortune to put your hand on a sweaty substance that someone had Ebola, you very well could contract it. And the incubation period can be longer than what we say. So if you really wanted to introduce a bioweapon to America, just send Ebola laden people. You've, you've infected them, they're not symptomatic, they cross the border, spread them out throughout the country and you have a pandemic. That is not a far fledged thought given these facts.
[00:44:07] Speaker C: What company did you say that was? Because this is a financial show. So.
[00:44:13] Speaker E: And they changed their name when I ran with that story. And I wasn't the only one. What we know happened here guys, is that they went totally dark. They did not want this exposed. And I got to say this, I used to teach research and stat at the college and university settings and I have to tell you that I thought their research and their sample size was small. I really do.
I'm trying to look up here right now, but I don't know if I'm going to get it right now. I'm going to put down Ebola vaccine and wait. This is the beauty of live, isn't it? But anyway, I don't know if it's going to come up with anything but I don't want to leave the audience hanging because you asked me a question I should be able to answer.
[00:44:56] Speaker D: Yes, but that way they have to reach out to us at teamothermoneyshow.com or 623-523-4044 before. You know what Dave, we've all seen out back.
[00:45:06] Speaker E: Here it is guys. Oh, found there's two vaccines actually. GSK and then Crucel, C R U C E L L. And they were in phase one clinical trials in quarter three of 2006. So I apologize. I was off two years and they, they did two groups of 16 volunteers that were vaccinated. And it says here the conclusion the study showed safety and immunogenicity of the doses evaluated. In other words, it showed promise. And they also took it for testing to NAID and the National Institute of Health. So I mean this is pretty well documented guys.
So I would say that I think that satisfies your question. At least I hope it does.
[00:45:54] Speaker D: So everybody that's listening has probably seen the movie Outbreak. I think it was from like 1995. Remember that? Where they came door to door to pick up the sick.
[00:46:03] Speaker E: Oh, oh, you bet I remember that.
[00:46:05] Speaker D: Very well, picture that today. Picture something like that. I mean, and you know what, Dave? We, when we talk about everything that's going on, I talk about future generations. They have to fix Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, politics, healthcare, borders. They have so much to fix.
[00:46:22] Speaker E: I think they would prefer not to have to do this because it's messy. Okay. And there's another fail safe too. You know, I grew up in an intel family and before my dad passed, he started telling me all the things that he did and none of it I could talk about then because my mom would have lost his pension when he died. So I had to keep it under wraps until my mom passed into in 2011. But what my dad told me, he said there's something out there called Project Bluebeam. And I've done a number of pieces on this since my mom passed. And it's a fake alien invasion.
And do we have the technology through AI to do it? Absolutely. We can fake it, destroy a city or two and then the world has to band together like the movie Independence Day. And you get your New World Order from that when everything else has failed. I don't think it is a primary plan, but I think it could be a fail safe plan. And notice what you're seeing in the media and in Congress. UFOs used to be laughed at, now they call them UAPs and there's congressional hearings.
[00:47:24] Speaker D: They're on C Span. Yes, I mean they're. They're on C Span. I've seen some of the, I've seen some of the information. Like this is, this is amazing. We've got every single thing on the table right now, including aliens. So.
[00:47:37] Speaker E: Well, we let these people steal an election in 2020 and I say let's. We're now suffering the consequences of our inaction and now it's going to be hard to root them out. And I'm not promoting insurrection, but I don't see a scenario where there's not going to be violence in opposition to a transition to power.
[00:48:01] Speaker D: Boy, I mean, that's what I worry about too. But what a scary thought. I mean, I think all the time. I'm 60, I've seen what I've seen. But my wife and I have three sons. We have his, hers and ours. And what they're going to see terrifies me. You have a son. I've met him several times.
I want you and I, Dave, to be the front line for this if it's going to happen. You know, my wife, years ago when I first started making bug out bags And I first started being really worried and this is 15 years ago. It was funny because she was like, you couldn't wait for this to happen. I'm like, that is so far from the truth. I just think it's going to happen. So if it's going to happen, bring it on under my watch. And that everything you're saying today, it's like, it's. I'm still probably going to be around for this, aren't I?
[00:48:45] Speaker E: People can come around though. And I'll give my own wife as example, the love of my life. And it's a good thing she loves me. Because when I was working against this conspiracy to steal our land for myself and my community, I started coming across North American Union and then it just mushroom from there. And my wife said, have you lost your mind? And I never told her what my dad did. Okay. I just, I kept that just under wraps.
And today she looks at things and she says, honey, have you seen this? You might want to look at this. I mean, she's done a full 180 and people can come around. But I'll tell you this, it's unfortunate if they're not awake now. It's hard to get them awake before the election because I think it's about a two week year incubation period for most people.
[00:49:31] Speaker D: I can see that.
Yeah. No, and I, I mean, I've kind of given up. I've got a bunch of people and, and I've been shouting, you know, I remember 20 years ago telling people our, our money's going the wrong way, our debt's going the wrong way. You know, the thing that I used to pass around, there was something coming called the Amero, and now it's obviously cbdc, but the Amero. And then I passed out an article one time and it talked about the storage of body bags, it talked about all this stuff being ready because it's going to be a big disruption in our country. And I lost a lot of people. And for 20 years now, I've been wrong. My thinking, I've never been wrong. I've just never been wrong. No, but come into a head, Dave. I mean, this is, this is crunch time. It's literally from this afternoon, like you mentioned at the rally. And God forbid, I mean, I want your family safe. I want everybody there safe.
[00:50:24] Speaker E: I, I've said my prayers, believe me, I've said my prayers. I, I want to share something with you that really validates what you just said. When President Trump came into office, he found something he didn't like Cook county in Chicago with all the crime. They weren't calling in the National Guard as they could have asked the governor to do. They were actually trying to negotiate with the United nations to get their peacekeeping troops to come in. And Trump stepped in and smashed that cold turkey. He said, you're not doing that. But there's precedent for what we're saying here because we've already seen governmental entities do these kinds of things.
I mean, you look at just the way Newsom, he treated Xi Jinping when he was in the Bay Area. You know, let's cast the demented man Biden aside. We'll totally ignore him. We'll get all the homeless out. We'll make sure the city looks like it did 30 years ago, where we're going to take him, and then we'll put on our best foot. I mean, Newsom catered to Xi Jinping, who has threatened our destruction. I don't think I need to go further to talk about the treason that's present in many of our public officials.
[00:51:33] Speaker D: Now, anybody that's even remotely aware of their surroundings knows what you're saying. We just talked about Newsom, what, last week, Anthony, or the week before? He's taken money from these Chinese solar companies and, well, Biden, the big guy.
[00:51:48] Speaker E: Right. Do we need to say any more?
And I'm going to tell you something that I have found, and I never really have gone down this road very far, but I think it's worth mentioning here since we're bringing up politicians and their corruption. Hunter Biden and Devin Archer accompanied Air Force Two. Paul Preston knows this story as well as others. They were on Air Force Two and they moved from a bio laboratory a box that was unmarked, boxes that were unmarked in Air Force Two. And they delivered it to guess where? Wuhan, China. We have the travel log. Now, here's what's interesting. The six personnel that were in charge of the plane all are dead under interesting circumstances. And this is how corrupt things are. And who was involved? Well, let's see. Nancy Pelosi's nephew by marriage is involved. Oh, that'd be newsome, wouldn't it?
You've got the rhino clown in Utah. His family was involved. And then you've got the president's family that's involved.
And Ukraine's really interesting, too, because we will have a war over Ukraine one day if it's not now. That's because they're the center of the biggest natural resources in the world, everything from lithium to gold. In fact, Blackrock has already staked their claim.
They have put down a $15 billion claimer to do the reconstruction in Ukraine when the war is over. You know why? They're going to be the asset manager for the mining companies that go in and draw the wealth and they're going to make trillions. So I mean, this is how corrupt things are. We live. I mean they might raise their right hand and have a suit on when they come into office, but we live under an organized mafia. That's the only way to put it honestly.
[00:53:33] Speaker D: We have to have you on again, Dave, I hate to say this to you, we just ran the clock out.
[00:53:38] Speaker E: My pleasure guys. Always good to share the room with fellow Arizonans.
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