January 16, 2026

00:56:00

Headlines, Protests, and the Price of Government Waste

Headlines, Protests, and the Price of Government Waste
Another Money Show
Headlines, Protests, and the Price of Government Waste

Jan 16 2026 | 00:56:00

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This week on Another Money Show, J.R. and Anthony react to current headlines and financial trends making noise across the country. They discuss ongoing protests, the continued run in the stock market, and rising prices in precious metals.

The conversation also turns to the national debt and government spending, including the Festivus Report on waste, inefficiency, and why these issues keep coming back year after year. As always, the focus is on helping listeners stay prepared – not scared – and confident that their financial strategy is built to withstand uncertainty, regardless of headlines or political noise.

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Meet Anthony: In 2018, Anthony Carrao became the 4th generation of the family business after leaving behind a career as an Industrial Engineer. Anthony now uses his knowledge base in strategic planning and cost savings initiatives for individuals and families to better their financial situations, instead of saving millions for large corporations.

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Any examples used are for illustrative purposes only and do not take into account your particular investment objectives, financial situation or needs and may not be suitable for all investors. It is not intended to predict the performance of any specific investment and is not a solicitation or recommendation of any investment strategy. [00:00:18] Speaker B: This is another Money show. Get set for another hour of the latest financial information and economic news affecting your bottom line. J.R. and Anthony are committed to helping more Americans like you optimize their inc. Reduce their tax risk and reach financial freedom. So let's start the show. Here are your hosts, Anthony Correjo and J.R. rochford. [00:00:41] Speaker C: Here we are, your hosts, Anthony Correjo and JR Rochford, taking a break from our day to day as financial advisors with Rochford and Associates. Fully independent, fourth generation family office right here in Sun City, Arizona to bring in news that you may not find on those other financial stations. We're aware the last thing you need is another money show, but we appreciate you being here. So I think we got Jerome Powell on deck for today. And what else you got? [00:01:09] Speaker A: Who's Jerome Powell? Why does that name ring a bell? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We're the government shutdown comes up in what, 15 days or so. We shut down the government on the 30th of January 2026. [00:01:22] Speaker C: Not there's no budget, there's no money, doesn't mean anything. They'll be fine. They'll print more. [00:01:27] Speaker A: They'll be correct. Correct. I know you tracked it a year ago or whatever, but how many shutdowns does this make in history now? I mean, you know, we have 38.6 trillion in federal debt now in the books and how many shutdowns? [00:01:42] Speaker C: I feel like it averaged over once a year, didn't it? [00:01:45] Speaker A: Oh, I'm guessing, I mean, that actually. [00:01:47] Speaker C: Like what is even? What's even the point? [00:01:50] Speaker A: Nope. It's just their shenanigans, just their wrangling, just their childish behavior. So let's start out with shout outs. Thank you. If you showed up for the West Valley men's networking group, that was kind of cool. Saw a few faces that haven't been in there in a while. So, Dan, if you're listening, it was nice to see you. Thad, My buddy Thad was there and there was another breach. Yep, Yep. He brought a female with him, so. But it's always nice to see her too. She's actually one of our clients. So she's a friend and a client. She was there. So apparently it's just the networking group now. I Mean, if you're a woman, please feel free. We're on the second Tuesday of each month at Throne on 67th Avenue, just north of Bell. So come see us. Come meet us. So, Sam, you're asking, will the next government shutdown beat the record? Beat the record for what? How many shutdowns or how long? You're talking about how long? Wasn't the last one the longest one that we've ever had? That is correct. So don't. Donald J. Trump likes to do things bigger and better. The next shutdown is going to be huge. It's going to be the best shutdown ever. This is going to be the shutdown of all shutdowns. So it's going to be a golden anniversary of shutdownedness. So I'm looking forward to it. Back to the shout outs. So we had a young lady in the office who listens regularly. I think it's okay to say her first name. Her first name is Linda. Linda was in the office, had a nice visit, as usual. And on the way out the door, something funny happened. I met with her, but she had to go by Anthony's office to get out the door. And Anthony said goodbye and she said goodbye and she kind of stopped and she said, she said good luck to Anthony. And Anthony was like, what? Because, I mean, I'm imminently worried. Always, like, I'm chronically worried. I'm a perma bear where some people are perma bulls. And we talked, as usual, whenever I see her, and most people for that matter, we, you know, we talked about the upcoming demise of the country in the world. And she is definitely on Team Junior when she listens to another money show. So it's just funny because she. She wants to poke Anthony a little bit. So she was like, good luck. Like, nothing will ever happen. You. You keep thinking that. You keep. You keep going and. And then we'll see. So thank you for coming in. It's always great to see you. I just finished up being on Joe Jaquin's show. I co hosted with Jason because Joe is in Texas working on Texit Matters. So thank you for having me on. As usual. We need to get Joe back on our show. It's been a little while. I think today marked my eighth visit on his show, so it's time to get him back on our show. So we will work on that. And as always, if you ever want me to send you any of those appearances, I can do that via email or messenger or whatever. So let me know. So let's get right into it. As you know, if you've listened to us any length of time. Our mission is to sound alarms. This is not a one hour long infomercial. There are plenty of those out there. I'll even copy those and send them to you too, if you want to compare and contrast with another money show. So. And when I can't sleep, I have the names of the ones I like to listen to. But when I'm wide awake, I listen to another money show anywhere I find my favorite podcast, such as Spotify, Google, Amazon, any of those things you young kids find. So anyway, our job is to sound alarms. We're a show of current events and how they're likely to affect your future, your finances, that sort of thing. So if you're wondering why we don't talk about Roth conversions and some of the stuff the other shows talk about, we do all that in the office and we're actually honest and we don't have the pressure and quotas that the big wirehouses place on their advisors. So we are a fully independent office. So come see us anyway. We are. We want you to be proactive and not reactive. We want you to be prepared and not scared. And I have had people mention. Then why do I always try to scare you? Well, in order to get you prepared, we have to scare you a little. So we want you a little scared and that'll hopefully prompt you to become prepared. We believe in things like dollar cost averaging. We think you should always be funding your Roth IRA every month or every year or whatever. We also believe in dollar cost averaging out. I mean, you know, the advisors when. When the next correction comes. And again, I have no inside knowledge of this, but I feel like this is the year. I feel like 2026 is the year. Jason on Joe show, complete opposite. He is. He is way worse than you, Anthony, with like, it'll never happen. He. He is talking about when. As long as the Fed keeps printing money, the market can never fall. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Sam said Junior knows when the next crash is coming. He's just keeping it secret. I. Man, I wish so much. And if I had any sort of esp, if I had any sort of premonition power, I wouldn't really be here now, would I? At the lottery office on 40th street, they'd be like, JR, I mean, come on, dude. Every Wednesday, Really? We've got your parking space. So. Yeah, I, I just, I have a gut feeling, and I usually trust my gut feelings that something's going to give. It's not going to be like Covid, which was actually the largest black swan event in the history of the world, not just our country. I think it's going to be multiple things. I, you know, we're going to get into a little bit of geopolitics. I think some of our debt is finally going to haunt us a little bit this year. I really don't care about the government shutdown. There's a lot of things I don't care about at all. But there are some things I do and they just seem to be, they seem to be getting worse, not better. So I don't know. I, I think this is my year to shine. [00:07:25] Speaker C: Anyway, so you done patting yourself on the back? [00:07:29] Speaker A: That's what I do on the show. I continuously. One of my arms is actually longer than the other just for back padding. I actually had it surgically extended. It's, you know, a lot of people have different surgeries. Mine was to have one arm longer than the other. Anyway, in a world where the rich get richer, the poor hover, and the middle class shrinks, you need us to make sure we keep you productive and reactive. You know, the banks have no money. I do. We have been remiss lately on reminding you that the FDIC, if you go on their own website, fdic.gov the. The last quarterly report, I need to look to see if there's a new one now. But it's New year. But the last one that I looked at, they had 1.36% coverage. So when you hear, oh, you know, I don't keep 250,000 or more in the bank, I don't have to worry. Well, you kind of do. Because if we have a modern day run of the banks, maybe one that's spurred by the silver shortage and the short squeeze that's occurring right now. I did look at silver this morning. It's $90 an ounce. [00:08:32] Speaker C: Wild. [00:08:33] Speaker A: Maybe $100 is the, is the place where everybody starts selling. You know, psychologically, maybe Dow 50,000 is where people start selling, I don't know. But anyway, so the banks have no money. Just so you know, they're at the repo market every night trying to keep themselves afloat. And then people want their physical silver, which the banks do not have. So I do urge you to understand a few things. If you're new with us, I want you to research a couple things. One is the term bail in. I need you to understand what a bail in is. It's happened in Cyprus, Greece, Venezuela. It's happened in different countries and we are ripe for it. Do I think it's a 98% chance? Do I think you should run out right after listening to the show and get your money out of the bank? I'm not saying that. I just think you better be awake and aware and nimble. I think you better have some physical cash at home. Did I just say physical when I meant physical cash at home. I think you should be proactive and not reactive. And Back to the fdic.gov if you poke around and we can always show you how to find it. It's only three different clicks of the mouse. They have 1.3% coverage. So let that sink in. You think as long as you got under 250 grand, you're safe. You're not safe at all because they have no money. I keep shouting that. So banks, shame on you. Okay, so should we get into a little follow up from last week? The Nicole good story where she was, you know, brutally assassinated by a cop? Apparently, it turns out now the dude's got internal bleeding. Some more videos came out. So the only reason I want to finish that up, it's grown legs. It's not gone away. The Nicole story is still active. The wife, her GoFundMe account is apparently over $1.5 million now. So good for you. You're taking people that were obstructing justice and making the one that survived a wealthy woman. So that, that's fantastic. One of my questions, my observations about all these protests and all these, you know, these little gatherings, these spontaneous gatherings, you know, with pre made signs, it's all a bunch of white people. Have you noticed that some, some of the people that get hurt seem to be people of color, but most of the protesters, they seem to be white. I don't know why that is. And by the way, why wasn't the woman that was, you know, taken out, why wasn't she at work? You know, why was she sitting there like sideways in the street for three minutes laying on her horn instead of being at work? But that's just me. The reason that I, I wanted to bring it up and follow up on it, because it happened again last night. A young probably, probably a beautiful man, a beautiful mind, a great neighbor. A Venezuelan man was shot last night. Shot in the leg. Is that, is that what people want on the other side of the aisle than me? Is that what you want? You don't want to kill people. You just want to like slow him down? So shoot him in the leg? So. All right, so that happened last night. So that means there's going to be more, you know, protests and there are more rioting. I'm, you know, one of my things with this. Nothing happens overnight. It's a slow, steady burn. But this, I don't know if this is going to go away. So we will see what happened. Oh, and the guy that got shot in the leg, the implement he used wasn't a vehicle, it was a shovel. Apparently, he was wildly wielding a shovel at the ICE agent. So, you know, if you're a politician and you're listening, we got to start banning shovels now. We got to put a. A database and red flag laws on your shovel now. So I just. And I'll let that go, but I think it's weird. But. And one last thing before I let it go. Where is the video from the wife that's now a millionaire? You know, they show her walking around filming ICE saying, you know, don't worry about our license plate and you should go have a sandwich, big boy. And, you know, yeah, great, peaceful protester. Where is her video? If it showed nothing was wrong on their side, that would have been released. If it is further evidence that they should not have been doing what they're doing, it would not be released. So, you know, choose. Choose your. Your thought on that very last. I have so much to say about everything. But very last point. What is with all these people in their whistles and the horns and the bullhorns? Is the noise supposed to alert the immigrants to ICE's presence? Is it supposed to annoy the ICE agents? Is it a combination of both? So stop with the whistles. It's annoying. Why don't we move on? Everybody knows that I am the boy that cried wolf, right? I mean, I've been sounding alarms in here. We're going on four years. I know I'm early. I don't think I'm wrong, but I'm continuously pointing out to you that this world's kind of weird. You know, the Girls and Boys Sports Blend is at the Supreme Court this week. A doctor doesn't know what a, you know, won't say what a boy and a girl is. This. This is crazyville in this country. And I just look at it like, Anthony, you and I have a obligation, a duty, a passion. We help people protect and grow their money in that order. We manage their money into the future without a crystal ball. So we have to keep our eyes on things. If we were a normal financial advisor and our primary motivation was purely sales, we wouldn't do this show. We would be out doing the dinner seminars like all the ones that get successful and grow. We would be buying demographics, lists of doctors and lawyers, maybe, maybe even sports stars. Can I take a break on my little rant to tell you something I find interesting. Apparently the head coach of the, the Steelers, I think that's out of Pittsburgh, that dude retired and I thought, well, that, you know, a lot of people like him, A lot of people think it was time to retire. So I, I looked up something and I think these stats are true, but I haven't been able to really cross vet verify, verifly verify either. Apparently Mike Tomlin left a $300,000 plus per week salary on the table by resigning. He's been a coach for a long time, so maybe he's got a little bit of in savings. Bitcoin crypto, gold and silver gun enamel. Anyway, so the stats on what this dude just walked away for from $0.54 a second, $32aminute, $1,943 per hour, $46,575 per day, $326,923 per week, for a total of 1,000,416, $667 per month. I guess if you do the math on math, that's going to bring you up to what, about 17 million a year. That's pretty good money. If you're one of our listeners and you, you make that kind of money even though you didn't meet us at a dinner seminar, you know, we didn't buy a list with your name on it. You're welcome to come to the office. We'll help you protect and grow just as much as we will the people that only make, you know, a few million a year. So come see us. Anyway, I, I just find that interesting when I talk about the haves versus the have nots are one of the main caveats on how this country is going to go south. That, that's, that's certainly one of them. The, the difference between what nurses and teachers make versus sports stars and their coaches is pretty staggering. Back to me. It's all about me. Remember my long arm? So back to me for a minute. We had, and I don't like to name drop, but we had Seth Leapson on our show a couple years ago and he reminded Anthony of something. Even though I'm the boy that cried wolf at the end of that story, there really was a wolf and I just. The 38.6 trillion in debt the geopolitics if we get to that, that's not over. We still have some problems going on in the world. Everything doesn't make sense. The Dow Jones Industrial Average at close to 50,000. It doesn't make sense to me. The Dow Jones Industrial average is only 30 companies. And I look at the anniversary coming up in March, not only of another money show being on the air, but the anniversary from March 9th of 2009, the end of the Great Recession. March will be 17 years. Think about that for a second. How old Were you 17 years ago, Anthony? I mean, 17 years we had a very steep V shaped decline in the financial markets, like 30, 40% in the month of March 2020. But starting in April, it went right back up. We had a little bit of roughness in 2022, a little bit in 2024, but this is insane. I mean, what's going on right now is insane. 17 years ago we didn't have bitcoin. How does that strike you? Pot stocks, marijuana stocks were not mainstream investments. We had nowhere near 38 trillion in debt. So I don't know, Covid, Covid changed a lot of things. But look at the price of new cars, used cars, since COVID Covid made a lot of people like me that are critical thinkers, rational thinkers. I like to think we, we're more skeptical of going to the doctor, for Pete's sake. I mean we, we don't trust the medical field as much as we did prior to Covid. I don't know Sam or Anthony if you have that feeling at all. But I'm more worried that they could try to slip me a little vaccine. I, I, I don't know. So everything's different. We didn't have George Floyd, we didn't have the Summer of Love. And you know what the advisors, I keep shouting about this part. You need to be proactive with your own money. It's not the advisor's money. I just had a conversation last night with somebody and they talked about moving money to me and they were afraid to say that to their advisor. And I was like, you have got to be kidding. You have got to be kidding. Next year health. Isn't your money the second most important thing you have to deal with on this planet? You have to. Business is business, but in the person. I wouldn't be moving the money if it wasn't A, appropriate and B, they're not happy with their advisor. I'm like, how often does the advisor meet with you? How often does your advisor call? Well, the advisor doesn't call. I call Them. When this potential client has questions, this potential client has to call their advisor. So that's great. And, you know, I make fun of my industry. I think next to used car salespeople and timeshare salespeople, we can tend to be a little bit sales and quota driven. We could tend to be a little bit slimy. That's my experience, at least near my office, you know, selling variable annuities to women in their 80s when their husband passes on. Blue suit, white shirt, red tie, highly polished shoes. Get ready. Because when the correction. I mean, I, I guess Anthony, Jason, the people that tell me to stop worrying about it, I mean, if it never happens, okay, but we never said. [00:19:24] Speaker C: Stop worrying about it. [00:19:27] Speaker A: What would you say if that you. [00:19:29] Speaker C: No, I'm saying you should have a contingency plan. Because everything is your plan is everything. You're doing as if the market's going to crash tomorrow. And if you're wrong for another 10 years, how do you balance that out? And that's where you have no flexibility. [00:19:43] Speaker A: All right, of course I do. I own Texas coin. I own grayscale, bitcoin. I, I own different crypto companies. I have a little bit of gold, silver, guns and ammo, food and water. I mean, I have some stocks. I have a Schwab account. I mean, I've hedged my bets. I believe in diversification and moderation. But you have said over the years that I'm so worried I don't enjoy life, and that is quite actually not true. I'm going to be doing some quad riding on Saturday and Sunday. I play poker whenever I can. I'm actually. But we're also on the radio to wake people up. I mean, you have to remember what station you're on. Anthony. We are on 960, the patriot. The best station in Phoenix, mind you. Salem Network. The best network in the country. And our job is to get to people that need to be a little bit more worried than they are. So I'm sounding alarms. But I, and I, we meet people all the time that agree with me that something is going to give. Something is wrong, something is amiss. And it'd be a whole bunch of us that are wrong if I'm wrong. Because. And you see the people I see that come through the office, I would say most of them don't like the fact that we have to deal with health care, you know, borders, politics, all of the stuff, you know, men and women's sports, even social things. They don't think it's right. They think Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid is going to change and not in a good way. There's so much on the table. So, yeah, I guess, you know, once you get prepared as much as you can, then have a nice day. Ray, if you're listening, do the best you can, Anthony. Do the best you can and then have a nice day. Don't worry about this stuff. But we're trying to reach people that are not quite prepared yet. How often do people come in the office, Anthony, how often that have 100% in stocks and bonds? Have no idea. We have safe products, 100% guaranteed that have stock market, market like returns these last few years. We can make you close to what you're making in your stocks with zero downside risk. And they've never heard of them. They don't even know they exist. So I think we are doing a tremendous service and we are in the best window we've been in the 17 years since the anniversary of the end of the Great Recession. I mean, right now our rates, even if you do a CD alternative with us, our rates are the highest they've been in years and years and years. So I don't know. Our job is to shake people, wake people up. You know, we have a radio show, so we need sound alarms. So I guess all I was getting at with the 17 years and how much has changed, 17 years. If we really believe that there can never be another 2008, I'm not talking about a simple 10 to 20% downturn. If there can never be another 2000 or Black Friday or Black Monday or 2008, okay, then I'm wrong and I'm great. Then you know, this show was entertaining and interesting. We're going to read a few things from the Festivus Report when we get back from break today. I don't know if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. So enjoy the show. It's fun. I have a lot of passion, Anthony. I butt heads, but if I'm right, this could get real weird. You know, I met with a couple last night who the guy's been with a company for 30 years, never had a pension, all he's got is a 401K. And it's, I mean, 30 years with a company, doesn't get a dinner, doesn't get a gold watch, gets a 401k. This person, this is the bulk of what this person has in his life. He cannot lose. He can lose 10%, he can lose maybe 20% because that's normal investing or you shouldn't Be in it. We've got alternatives for you, but he can't lose 30 or 40%. He's close to retirement. We met because he's retiring in the next few years and, and we started talking about it and he's very, very worried about the world. So, and this is, this is kind of a younger man compared to some of the people we meet. And, and so we had a great conversation, we had a nice dinner. It's, it's so we're, we're going to be, to help this guy. So. Oh, one, one thing I just, you know, when I talk about geopolitics, if I don't get there today, if I don't get into Iran or any of that stuff, I do. Something funny happened yesterday morning on the 14th of January. Oh, we forgot to mention, as we record, it is Thursday, 15 January. So on 14 January, I was listening to a show. I, I don't know if it was Mike Gallagher or who the, who the person was, but he said something funny. He said that after the break that he took, he's going to cover Venezuela, Iran and Minnesota. And I'm quoting that he said, when I get back, I'm going to cover Venezuela, Iran and Minnesota. And the reason that that tickled me, we are lumping Minnesota in with Venezuela and Iran. I mean, I have thought for a long time that this country ends up splitting up the division. The polarization is way too vast for us to, you know, move on like normal history. So we're going to have a civil war. How bad it gets, I don't know. But we're going to break up. The country's going to break up and get divorced one day. So. But Minnesota, congratulations that a nationwide syndicated talk show host is comparing you to those crap holes like I ran in Venezuela. So. And you know, in this world, in this country, in this world, there's good guys and bad guys, there's good versus evil. Some people say it's spiritual warfare. It's way more, you know, my buddy, my old next door neighbor, you know, we talk all the time about what's coming. The mark of the beast. AI, how serious should we worry about this? It's funny because I look at it like a lot of my job is to figure out what's coming up in five years, 10 years and 20 years. But we're in such unchartered territory that how can you possibly, how can I have stuff on this show every week for four years without ever running out of something to say? How can I every single week have new stuff. New stuff. If we were the other shows, we would still have to talk about your income, your assets, your date of birth, your risk tolerance, which I can tell you right now, when things are going up as an 8 to a 10, when we have another 2008, finally, your risk tolerance is going to sink down to a one to a two. So I can help you with your risk tolerance. Anyway, how close are we to break time? Because I really, really can't wait to get into the Festivus Report. Oh, we have two minutes. So let me tell you one more thing and then I'll take us to break. I have a crown that fell out. And I won't mention any names because I don't want to get sued by cigna. I won't mention any company names, but I am looking for dentists because my dentist is going to retire soon. And Sandy got several referrals from her work. I got a referral from our office manager, Macy, my own dentist. None of them are in this dental plan we have. Thank you, Sam. Sam's got a great dentist in the Atlanta metro area for me. I only go to the dentist twice a year, so I guess I go to Atlanta. Will you buy me lunch if I go there? Buy me Oreo cookies. Who's the comedian that talks about, you know, Stephen Wright? He's like, I'll make my dental hygienist earn her keep. I'll sit in the waiting room ready for my appointment. I'll eat a whole sleeve of Oreos. So shout out to Dr. Kim in the Atlanta metro area. I'm coming to see you twice a year as long as you accept Cigna. By the way, why don't we do this? Let's get to our break. You can reach us as always, at 623-523-0444 or email us teamothermoneyshow.com check out our YouTube channel, Things Still Growing. We got over 420,000 views now of our videos and shorts. So thank you for your support. We'll be right back. [00:27:10] Speaker B: All of JR and Anthony's listeners receive a free consultation. Just for listening to the show. Visit anothermoneyshow.com There's a story in my eyes. [00:27:26] Speaker A: Turn the pages of design. Has listening to the news got you down? Are you unsure how politics borders health care and our shaky financial ground is going to affect your retirement? I am JR Rachford, host of another money show. Tune in every Saturday at noon on 960 the Patriot to learn how current events can affect your finances and more importantly, learn what you can do about them. Stop investing according to the old outdated rules and start investing for the world around you. [00:27:59] Speaker B: Time to trade stress for strategy. Let's talk money that makes sense. This is another Money show. [00:28:08] Speaker A: Welcome back to ANOTHER Money Show. Thank you so much for being with us. We are at. Not you. [00:28:14] Speaker C: I'm sorry, that wasn't for me. [00:28:16] Speaker A: No, Sam, thank you so much for being with us. And Dr. Kim in Atlanta, if you're listening, I want to know if you accept Cigna. And thanks for listening. Maybe he'll come to me. Maybe if I win the lottery, I'll fly him out to help me with this crown. Actually, I got to hurry and win the lottery because I need the crown fixed today. So I was. Oh, please reach out to us, Anthony. You threw me all off. That was kind of cool. So reach out to us at 623-523-0444. We want to be a second opinion on your finances. We, we want to meet you. We want to talk about the radio show. We want to talk about anything you want to. So come and meet us. You can also email us if you go to teamnothermoneyshow.com and as always, listen to us every Saturday at 5 in the morning and again at noon. And you can hear us for we hear almost four years worth if you go to any podcast platform or one of our websites. So I do. Before I get into the Festivus Report, I do have a couple follow ups. I forgot the very most important thing when I was back in Minnesota talking about Nicole Good. And the wife that's a millionaire now and stuff. I had a neighbor. I had a neighbor. I was walking the other night. You know, new Year, new us. So Sandy and I are walking at night again. So we've started that. I don't know, about 14, 16 times over the years I've been with Sandy, but maybe this time it'll stick. You never know. You're never supposed to quit. So we were walking and we ran into a neighbor. This was two nights ago. And it got into the conversation of the world and geopolitics and all that. And it got to Minnesota. And one of the things she said was, why doesn't ICE come to some city? And I stopped. I'm like, what? She said, well, you know, they're in Minnesota. Why don't they come to Arizona and come to Sun City? Because all the landscapers are illegals. And I'm like, first of all, how do you know that? Have you asked their immigration status or seen their green card. But she's got a great point, Anthony. You're thinking they're just randomly snatching brown people and putting them in the ICE vehicles. But everything, when you hear of these things going wrong, it's always people that are breaking the law and breaking the law on top of breaking the law by being here illegally. So to her point, when I said last week, they're not just trying to take poor little grandma's tortilla makers and landscapers and busboys, they're trying to take the dangerous Venezuelan gang members off the streets. The guy that wielded the shovel, the two people that were shot in between Nicole and this recording of the show, there were two people shot in Portland, Oregon. They were Venezuelan gang members. So my thing to her was, I'm like, oh, you need to talk to Anthony. I'm like, that kind of makes my point. If they're looking for numbers, if they're just looking for a huge sweep of taking people that are potentially here illegally, come to Sun City, Arizona, every day of the week. I hear the blowers and the weed eaters, weed whackers going off at five in the morning. So Sun City, there's a ton of brown people. Ice, if you're listening, I hope they don't come to Sun City now because a, that'll make Anthony and the neighbor, right, that they're randomly picking up people that just. They're profiling based on their skin color. And the other thing is, it's like, I need my yard done. So I know. Don't, don't, don't. Ice, if you're listening, get the. Get away from Sun City, stay in Minnesota, and hurry up with the immigration stuff so we can get back to the fraud. We didn't forget about you, Tim Waltz, you know, Mayor Glenn Frey, whatever your name is. We didn't forget about you guys. We know that there's fraud still. So. Yeah, I forgot to say that, Anthony, you would add such a kick out of that. She was like, you know, why aren't they in Sun City? Where was I? Oh, yeah, let's get right into the Festivus Report. I think the best way to handle this instead of us digging through it last week is that we do one or two every week. Let's. Let's do one or two every week until you two get tired of it or somebody calls in or writes us and says, stop that. So let me get to the first one or two and see what you think here is. And by the way if you don't know what I'm talking about. Every year Dr. Rand Paul puts out a fraud list of what your tax dollars are doing, where your government is spending money. And there's. Some of these are really juicy. I'm just starting at the beginning. So some of these are better than others. But here's one for you. Amount wasted 1.5 million. And your first thought is probably like that's an amateur number. That's not even a billion with a B or a trillion with a T. But. But let me tell you what it's for. But wait. Phil Swift, the Department of Health and Human Services, the old HHS spent over 1.5 million on a project called UNET U N E T E Unit UNETE. I don't know, an innovated multi level strategy. Did you hear that? Innovative multi level strategy. Kevin, if you're listening, get out the jargon generator. We haven't talked about that for a while, but there's a word nobody can understand that claims it can reduce drug use in Latinx communities through, wait for it, celebrity influencer campaigns and friend groups. So a million and a half out of the big huge crock a tax dollar fund is going to social media people. So citing an August 2022 NIH press release warning about rising drug use among many younger adults, researchers decided the solution wasn't better enforcement, prevention, or treatment. It was famous. People mean to giggle, but I do that. The plan involves recruiting 30 celebrity influencers, actors, singers and athletes to produce anti drug messages, then piping those messages through friendship networks in South Florida. Community health workers will map friend groups like they're in a teen drama movie, push influencer content through television, radio, streaming and gaming platforms and track the results. Because nothing says effective drug prevention like getting lectured by someone who once did a guest spot on Telenove Novella. Taxpayers are footing the bill to see if celebrity clout and group chats can succeed where decades of anti drug programs have failed. Good luck to you. I mean, Nancy Reagan tried to stop it. Just say no. Okay, I'll just say no. That'll make it go away. We've had a war on drugs forever. We've had a war they've already started. [00:34:56] Speaker C: I mean, people aren't drinking anymore, right? Next generation Gen Z. [00:35:00] Speaker A: Or they, they say drugs here like they're implying not alcohol. They're implying different drugs, I'm guessing. Like, you know what happens? [00:35:09] Speaker C: You drink and then you're like, you know what? Drinking's fun. I bet cocaine will be fun too. And then from There. It's meth. Right. [00:35:17] Speaker A: So basically gateway. [00:35:19] Speaker C: Gateway reasoning. [00:35:22] Speaker A: And. And by the way, if. If it helps, you know, I mean, if it helps. Good at it. I just. I don't know. Seems to me like it's just. It's nothing. It's not gonna do anything. And 1.5 million is a drop in the bucket. Let's do one more. Is that okay, amount wasted, this one. Oh, geez. I don't even know if I should do this one. Amount wasted is only $244,252. Yeah, this is baloney. Anthony, you can find that in your couch cushion if you move them. You're probably laying on your couch right now, so see if you can find 244 grand. The U.S. department of State awarded $244,252 to stand for Peace in Islamabad. Islamabad. I think it's Islamabad. To produce a television cartoon series that teaches kids in Pakistan how to fight climate change. Yeah, this was worth reading because the end justifies the means on this one. So this isn't just any small nonprofit. It's headed by Harun Rashid. And I'm reading that directly. Harun Rashid, if you're listening, don't sue me for slander. I'm reading this from Rand Paul. Sue his. But the award winning creator of the Peabody winning, Emmy nominated burka avenger. The group has worked with unicef, usaid, European Union, and even meta platforms. Of course, they have American taxpayer dollars fund the creation of animated characters to raise the environmental awareness and show youth practical actions to save the planet. Oh, Greta, you just got a little bit excited, didn't you? If you're listening to us. Because apparently the most pressing priority for US diplomacy in Pakistan isn't terrorism, security, or economic stability. It's cartoons about recycling. It's climate policy meets Saturday morning tv starring Uncle Sam as the executive producer. Okay, even though it was only 244 grand, that was well worth reading if you ask me. So good on you, tax dollars. I'm glad you're being spent properly. So, you know, when I mentioned Thad earlier, I'm gonna start saying fad every episode. So, Sam, if you're still doing the bingo card, you know, just put fat on every weight. He and I had another conversation, like we do pretty often about AI. The fact that there could be a tech bubble brewing just with AI. He talks a lot about. About Mark of the Beast. He's gotten more spiritual as he's gotten older. And I mean, I start looking up, like, the impact of AI. The impact of data centers. And I found something I want to read real quick here. Amazon's new $11 billion. 11 billion with a B data center campus rising in St. Joseph County, Indiana. And the scale is staggering. Thad, if you're listening, I didn't know know this at the time. I found this after we talked. Built primarily to train and run AI models, the facility is expected to consume 2.2 gigawatts of electricity. You may ask, what is a gigawatt? Roughly the same amount needed to power 1 million homes. I mean, let that sink in for a second. Here's AI at work. This one single plant. And by the way, Arizona is a hotspot. We've got a bunch of land that's getting ready to go to data center homes. So the power that's needed for this one plant is enough to power a million homes. On top of that, it will require an estimated 300 million gallons of water every year. Supporters call it a leap forward for AI innovation and economic growth. Critics are asking hard questions about the energy strain, the water usage and the long term sustainability. This isn't just a tech project. It's a glimpse into how resource hungry the AI future may become. So that's kind of interesting. I mean that's certainly kind of scary. And they're popping up everywhere. So we will see. Let's see, where were we got to the got to the Festivus report. Why don't we get into a few articles? I've been, I haven't gotten to too many articles lately, so I want to get to at least a couple. Anthony, you already gave a little foreshadowing on one, but before we get there, I've got one that I've been sitting on, this one since the 31st of December of last year. This article so last year. But it's, it's fun so I thought I'd get to it. So this is from Reason R E a s o n.com on 31 December last year. DHS says Real ID, which DHS certifies is too unreliable to confirm US citizenship. The line in the sand. I've been telling you there's two. One is do not accept digital id. The other one is do not accept the erosion of your Second amendment rights. You'll thank me later if you hang on to your weapons and you don't get a digital ID. So the step to digital ID was supposed to be get all 50 states in line and get the star on your driver's license. Star on your license pretty soon There'll be a star in your uniform. I won't go any further with that. So let's go into this a little bit. It's the punchline to a bad joke that started 20 years ago when Congress passed the Real ID Act. Only the government could spend 20 years creating a national ID that no one wanted and that apparently doesn't even work as a national id. But that's what the federal government has accomplished with the Real id, which the Department of Homeland Security now considers unreliable, even though getting one requires providing proof of citizenship or lawful status in the country. On December 11, a court filing with Philip Lavoy, the Acting Assistant Special Agent in Charge of DHS Mobile, Alabama office, stated that real ID can be unreliable to confirm U.S. citizenship. If you read the whole article, it's going to give you an example of a person that had real ID and was still detained twice, once in handcuffs for over an hour, once 20 or 30 minutes. So I'll let you read that for yourself, but I'll read a couple more lines from the article. Lavoie's declaration says that the agents needed to further verify his US citizenship because each state has its own Real ID compliance laws which may provide for the issuance of a real ID to an alien and therefore based on HSI special agent training and experience, real ID can be unreliable to confirm the US citizenship. It's the punchline to a bad joke with a 20 year windup. When Congress passed the Real ID act in 2005, it was sold as a post 911 security measure to create uniform standards for state IDs, including clearly listing citizenship or lawful immigration status. State IDs that conform to the requirements were would be marked with a star. Contrary to the cheeky first sentence of this story, DHS insists that Real ID is not a national ID system and that it doesn't involve a centralized national database. Civil liberties groups say it amounts to a de facto national ID system anyway. Of course it does. And now with the revelation that it's not as effective as they thought this would be, what I would say is the next step to saying we have to revamp it and have a digital id. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist such as myself or wear a tinfoil hat around the house to see what's going on and what's coming. So this is intentionally failing so they can do it a do over. They're going to have a reset two more lines and then I'll move on. The rub was that real IDs would be required for entry into federal property, and including, most significantly for the average American, airport security checkpoints. But the law was widely unpopular. There was such a low compliance from states that enforcement was delayed seven times over the years, finally beginning this past May. The project should have been scrapped years ago. America somehow survived two decades of terrorism, free air travel without the real ID as reasons. Scott Shackelford wrote in 2021, the government is demanding that Americans give up more of their privacy to the feds, subject themselves to additional inane bureaucracy, and carry around proof that we're citizens to be able to fly, even though none of that makes us more secure. And now we discover that DHS doesn't even consider this thing proof of citizenship. But what the Lavoie declaration makes clear, and what should be remembered every single time a new national security boondoggle, like the real idea is proposed, is that when our Fourth Amendment rights are eroded, there's no evidence or piece of plastic that will suffice to overcome an officer's reasonable suspicion once the government decides you're a target. Hence, read the whole story and you'll hear about the poor man that. That got detained and he was here legally with his real id. So anything on that, Anthony? And no, that's not just hypothetical. Do you have any comments on that? Are you. You okay with this? Do you have anything to say on this? This. [00:45:09] Speaker C: I mean, it's. It is funny that an ID isn't good enough to say that you're a citizen, but since when do they care if people are citizens? [00:45:18] Speaker A: Right? [00:45:18] Speaker C: They're just rounding them up anyways. [00:45:21] Speaker A: Just brown people. They're not, right? It doesn't matter if you're a citizen. It's the skin color. You're safe, Anthony. You're tragically white. I don't even think you know how to dance, you're so white. So. [00:45:28] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, Maybe they'll bring back Joe Arpaio and he can go to Minnesota. [00:45:33] Speaker A: Yes, I remember. Yeah. Baloney. Pink underwear. That was quite a forceful figure. He did a lot for animal rights people, though. He protected animals, so he was very much against animal abuse. So I really like that. So, sideline real quick for you, speaking of politicians and foolishness, Somalia's ambassador to the un this, this. Wait to hear this. Somalis. Somalia's ambassador to the UN is a daycare administrator in Ohio. You cannot make this up. So we're going to start finding out that politicians find any way they can to pad their pockets. Let's see here. Let's get to another article or two. Oh, you know What I do want to give you, we always try to bring stuff that's useful, not that's just exciting and engaging. I went to a veterans coffee hour on Tuesday morning. Shout out to my new buddy Todd and my friend Jim and Russ and Ron Anthony. You know Ron, he went. So there's a little group of us having a good time. Over 100 people there this week. So it was a good turnout. Learned something new and I want to share it with you in case you're a listener and you're a veteran and if you happen to be 100% disabled. So if you're through the VA administration, 100% disabled, you can apply as long as you do by the end of February of 2026, you can apply and you'll pay no property taxes. So it's across the board. You have to just, you know, if you're in the system is 100% disabled, they waive your property taxes. That's huge. So it started on. What's that? [00:47:12] Speaker C: So that's nice. [00:47:13] Speaker A: It's wonderful. Yeah. I mean, I don't think anybody should pay property taxes once their house is paid for, but that's just me. But anyway, so it was a new rule. It started on the 1st of January this year. But you have a small window. You do have to reapply annually. It's not something that just goes forever. And probably that maybe that's a step to reduce fraud because once you pass away, maybe, you know, your next to kin should pay your property taxes, but I don't know. So if you're a veteran, reach out to us. We'll point to you. You know how to find that information. One more thing before I hit the article. Anthony, who isn't your cell provider? Verizon. Yep, Verizon. Did it affect. Did you have an outage at all yesterday? [00:47:51] Speaker C: Not that I know of. [00:47:52] Speaker A: No. No, I didn't. You're unaffected by anything that I ever read, hear, see, touch, smell, taste. It's amazing. Anyway, I don't know if you at least heard about it as a Verizon customer, but yesterday on the 14th of January, there was a big outage. I guess it was spotty, but it was nationwide and it was for a long time. So if you were affected by it, they're going to give you a $20 credit on your bill. So good on you. [00:48:17] Speaker C: In that case, I was very affected and it ruined my entire day. [00:48:22] Speaker A: So see Verizon, if one of your representatives, if one of the brass is listening, I can prove that because I never, ever Talked to Anthony on the phone yesterday, so I'm pretty sure he. 20 bucks. I think he was in the outage. And you know, of course, they're, they're the communications department is, is, you know, pushing the story away already. They, they. I read that there was a software problem in New Jersey. Yeah. Okay. The conspiracy theorists, which I am not this far down the rabbit trail. Some of the conspiracy theorists think it was a test. They think that the government is, is doing on purpose to test, you know, paying your cell phones, like when they did a few years ago, that national pinging of all of our cell phones, no matter what carrier. So, and the only reason I bring it up is because you have to understand how fragile our systems are, how fragile our communications grid is, how fragile our antiquated power grids are. You have to understand that if we have a solar flare, any kind of a power grid failure, if we have an EMP or a high altitude emp, you're not going to be on your cell phone, kids. So. And I don't know if the answer is to have a satellite phone. I don't know if it's to have a pigeon and send it to your neighbor. If you have a question, I don't know the answer. But I just can tell you it's another example that you better be prepared and not just scared. So throw it out there for you. And let's see here. Insurrection Act. I've got all these notes for what to go over today. It looks like Donald J. Trump may be the 18th president to invoke the Insurrection act in Minnesota because that's not dying down yet. And like I said last week, so far, what I understand of the Insurrection Act, I'm okay with it. I don't think the lawlessness should continue. I just don't want it to grow legs. And this be the start of the Civil War. I want to go a little further in my life being calm and peaceful before I have to partake in the Civil War. So the Insurrection act, bring it on. I am afraid of, of martial law. Not gonna lie in during the COVID you know, time when they told you you can't leave your house, that bothers me. That bothers me. Let me choose. I don't like the fact that I couldn't go into my bank, but I can go into Desert Diamond Casino, conveniently located on the 101 in Northern. We're looking for sponsors, by the way. Desert Diamond. So anyway, let's get to an article. Anthony, this one involves you because you sent me this. So, and I found a couple more. I made sure I read a little more on it. Federal Reserve Chair Powell under Criminal Investigation over HQ Renovation and this where I got this article was from foxbusiness.com on the 11th of January, 2026. And by the way, think about the big picture. Minnesota and Minneapolis. Minneapolis, you know, the city in Minnesota, the state and the city are suing the federal government. They're suing the federal government. Mark Kelly is suing Pete Hegseth. The Trump administration is suing Jerome Powell. I mean, what the hell's going on with all the lawsuits anyway? So, Anthony, you sent me something from Reddit. I'm going to. What I'm going to read here real quick is what you sent through Reddit, because I don't. I'm afraid we'll run out of time before I get to that article to break it down. This is actually from the Federal Reserve Chair, Jerome Powell. Good evening. On Friday, the Department of justice served the Federal Reserve with grand jury subpoenas threatening a criminal indictment related to my testimony before the Senate Banking Committee last June. That testimony concerned, in part, a multi year project to renovate historic Federal Reserve office buildings. I have deep respect for, for the rule of law and accountability in our democracy. No one, certainly not the chair of the Federal Reserve, is above the law. But this unprecedented action should be seen in the broader context of the administration's threats and ongoing pressure. The new threat is not about my testimony last June or about the renovation of the Federal Reserve buildings. It's not about Congress's oversight role. The Fed, through testimony and other public disclosures, made every effort to keep Congress informed about the renovation product. We brought this story up a while back ago, Anthony, six months ago, and we talked about how there was a lot of weirdness with fountains and gardens and stuff. The threat of criminal charges is the consequence of Federal Reserve setting interest rates based on our best assessment of what will serve the public, rather than following the preferences of the presidents. This is about whether the Fed will be able to continue to set interest rates based on evidence and economic conditions, or whether instead monetary policy will be directed by the President through pressure or intimidation. Yeah, you know, yeah, Jerome, because you've done such a great job so far. You know, the Fed's done such. Anthony, didn't you point out that the Fed held interest rates too long? They held them too low for too long. And that's why we have some of the problems we have. These people are feckless. You know, it'll be interesting to see how this outcome, you know, with the suit goes. But I, I think it's not always, you know, black or white. I think it's gray. I think he did lie to. I think he did lie when he was on the stand. I think he did renovations that were unnecessary. I think he did wrong. But I also think what else do. [00:53:38] Speaker C: We know that's doing renovations that are unnecessary? [00:53:41] Speaker A: Ballroom My understanding is he's taking private money and not tax dollars. But I don't know that to be fact. I mean he, he listed off like. [00:53:48] Speaker C: Well the Fed thing too is right. The Fed's paying because it's not a actual federal. [00:53:52] Speaker A: Where will the Fed get their money? Where? Yeah, it's private bankers. Where do they get their are they taking any money from tax dollars? I and I don't know They, I, I don't know. [00:53:58] Speaker C: That was what they said. He said they're not taking money from tax dollars. So how or why they can be lying about it, that it's a non issue. [00:54:07] Speaker A: It'll go away. Yeah, it'll go away. [00:54:08] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:54:09] Speaker A: So we can, we can finish up that next week if you want. We'll at least get to the Festivus report next week and I guess we got to go from now. [00:54:16] Speaker C: Well anyways, if you have questions on any of the things you heard, you want to talk to Junior for any reason, reach out to us team at another money show.com find us on the web anothermoney show.com give us a call 623-523-0444. The number again is 623-523-0444. Again, remember there's no, no minimums, no obligations, no reason to not reach out and give us an excuse to, you know, hang out in the office sometimes. So we like meeting there. We like meeting you guys. Hope you're enjoying your weekend. We'll see you next Saturday at noon. OH and at 5am right here on 960 the Patriot. [00:55:05] Speaker B: Thanks for listening to us. Another money show. 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